10 track day lifespan of Lotus rear brace
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No they're not. They're just metric. There are metric rod ends.
OK - find an equivalent (I didn't see full dimensions listed on your link, or the correct part).

I know a place that makes them, they can do custom stuff. What are the measured dimensions?
Here's a drawing:
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Cool cody! I will get some quotes.
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Exactly one minute, nice job Bruce.
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OK, here's one. http://www.hrpworld.com/index.cfm?fo...action=product
Close, but that has a 12 x 1.5 thread and we need 12 x 1.25. The 10 mm hole / 12 mm stud aspect is just an oversize body design which are not too hard to find.
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Yes it has boot covers on it already.

The 7's Only Racing brace is in the link to marcw's thread I posted.

I have a track day on the 20th so I want something I can trust ASAP. The 7's Only Racing works for me and my needs. I know it will be on the car when I need it.
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Close, but that has a 12 x 1.5 thread and we need 12 x 1.25. The 10 mm hole / 12 mm stud aspect is just an oversize body design which are not too hard to find.
Yeah, Lotus screwed us when they chose that 10 mm id and 12 mm shank combination and then mixed it with the M12 X 1.25 thread. I think if I were you guys that wanted to source replacements other than from Lotus I would use a 12 mm id with an M12 x 1.25 and use a reducing bushing in the id to reduce down to 10 mm. The custom made rod ends are slick but it locks you into always having to get custom rod ends. Where after you have the id reducers made you can always reuse them with available rod ends. The only way to be able to have a large variety of "cheap" high quality rod ends to pick from is to fabricate to readily available sizes.
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Exactly one minute, nice job Bruce.
Not exactly, the thread size is wrong. F***ing Lotus. See my post above
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I think they are left hand threads. Can anybody confirm this.
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I think they are left hand threads. Can anybody confirm this.
Yes, *Left Hand* threads.
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Cool cody! I will get some quotes.
Sure, Stan - but please verify the measurements first. I'd hate to end up responsible for a gross of rod ends that don't fit.


IIRC, Aurora does custom work and can probably even provide an entire link assembly ready to fit.

Not exactly, the thread size is wrong. F***ing Lotus. See my post above
Not as easy as it looks, is it?
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Sorry guys, I forgot to type in LH treads when I did the drawing for the rod end. The length of the threaded end is an additional problem. A longer rod portion most likely will need to be fabbed if using a standard aircraft quality heim joint. A 12 mm hole in the ball is an easy one, just need a bushing by itself or as part of the spacer. And the width of the ball is another problem if bolting up to the factory support rod...

The rest of the drawings I did for the chassis brace parts + photos (including rockwell hardness testing) can be found here:
http://public.fotki.com/garymilcheck..._rear_chassis/
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Sorry guys, I forgot to type in LH treads when I did the drawing for the rod end. The length of the threaded end is an additional problem. A longer rod portion will also need to be fabbed if using a standard aircraft quality heim joint.

The rest of the drawings I did for the chassis brace parts + photos (including rockwell hardness testing) can be found here:
http://public.fotki.com/garymilcheck..._rear_chassis/
Which is where I found them - on milcher's site.
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Sure, Stan - but please verify the measurements first. I'd hate to end up responsible for a gross of rod ends that don't fit. IIRC, Aurora does custom work and can probably even provide an entire link assembly ready to fit.
I'm not having anything made. I'll get some pricing on some quantities of parts like the print though. What is the price from Lotus for a loose joint?
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The length of the threaded end is an additional problem. A longer rod portion most likely will need to be fabbed if using a standard aircraft quality heim joint. A 12 mm hole in the ball is an easy one, just need a bushing by itself or as part of the spacer. And the width of the ball is another problem if bolting up to the factory support rod...
I've got a solution to the length problem but it will only work if you're replacing worn out Lotus end links. You buy M12 X 1.25 Female LH rod ends, cut the stud off the old lotus end link, and screw it into the female rod end. You still need to fab the id reducer and some thin wall spacers to make the ball wider so you can get a larger angle of misalignment. Is it worth all the trouble? I don't know. It depends how expensive those Lotus end link replacements are and how often they have to be replaced. With the Track Pack equipped cars wearing them out eventually they will have to sell them separately.

BTW, thanks for posting all the info
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I'd like to see just what wore out there isn't much real movement in the joint. I just did the install and alignment on my car and I have to admit there not what you would call aircraft quality. The dust seals fell out of mine so I sealed them with duct tape. I figured it was consistent with the theme of Velcro and zip ties that lotus uses to hold the car together. carl
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I'd like to see just what wore out there isn't much real movement in the joint. I just did the install and alignment on my car and I have to admit there not what you would call aircraft quality. The dust seals fell out of mine so I sealed them with duct tape. I figured it was consistent with the theme of Velcro and zip ties that lotus uses to hold the car together. carl I was at Cantrell Motorsports and saw Sleepless's car on the rack. If you rock the rear wheel in and out, the toe link moves back and forth laterally. Apparently, the inside of the heim joint ball has a nylon bushing. That bushing is shot.

Here is a pic from my car, but pointing to what I saw on Pete's.
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The 7's Only Racing joints are "aircraft quality"
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The 7's Only Racing joints are "aircraft quality"
In case the 7's only joints wear out in the future, do you know the replacement part price jsut for the joints?
Thanks
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interesting because i didnt notice any nylon bushing.Were going to do Joes tomorrow and i'lltake a closer look. carl
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In case the 7's only joints wear out in the future, do you know the replacement part price jsut for the joints?
Thanks
Their system uses "off the self" spherical ball joints that can easily be obtained from Aurora, HRP, etc. That was one of the original design goals.
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