http://home.earthlink.net/~ejhonda/accjrnl-2002.html


"Rota Slipstreams - These are a pretty nice wheel. However, there are some things to be noted. First, the finish on these wheels is pretty fragile. I noticed that they got a bit scratched up when the tires were mounted on them. I don't believe it was due to rough handling when getting the tires put on. Second, there are 2 stickers on the wheel, just behind the spokes, that give warnings on 2 issues that were never mentioned on either Rota's web site or by any reseller. Sticker 1 - "For Racing Only" - This seems to be a disclaimer that these wheels were not meant to take the punishment that street driving, and its inevitable potholes, will serve up. The wheels are very light, and appear to be nearly pure aluminum. Aluminum's nice, but it does bend rather easily. Sticker 2 - Gives a warning that these wheels are only meant for sub-compact cars, like "Civics, Sentras, Integras", and have a 500kg weight limit per wheel. Once again, I believe Rota is trying to cover their butts on having rims bend when trying to support heaviers cars (like an Accord...). I don't believe my Accord is too much of a burden on the Rotas, but time will tell (again). Lastly, those 2 damn stickers will not come off worth a cuss. I had to spray WD40 on them and let them soak for an hour before I was able to scrape them off with my thumbnails, about a half inch square at a time. This was by far the most time consuming part of mounting the Rotas on my vehicle. Well, that and finding out that my stock Honda lug wrench wouldn't fit the McGard SplineDrive socket. I had to run to PepBoys and pick up a Performance Tool 14" SAE 4-Way Lug Wrench ($7.99). The stickers really got me mumbling to myself. Everything else seems to be working as described, and we'll find out this Sunday when I compete in SCCA Solo II competition over at the State Office Campus with MoHud SCCA." http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/arch.../t-309119.html

"My thanks go to Kim Bong at Rota Wheels for replacing my set of old Attacks, one of which I cracked at Sears Point on Sunday at a Speedventures event. "

I guess they may replace your wheel, but not your Lotus suspension, when it falls onto the rim going at track speeds.

I'm not saying they're good or bad (really don't give a sh!t either way) just thought it humorous/retarded you guys were implying their quality/durability was somehow directly correlated to their aesthetic design originality ........
I'm not saying they're good or bad (really don't give a sh!t either way) just thought it humorous/retarded you guys were implying their quality/durability was somehow directly correlated to their aesthetic design originality ........
I don't see how it's retarded. There are many other clearly lower quality knockoff products in the world -- besides wheels. "This is a Kinesis wheel. This happened at the track. Imagine what would happen to a Rota at the track..."

So a KINESIS wheel fails at the track and this is somehow evidence of poor
Rota quality? I'm not sure I understand the logic.

-Ed "This is a Kinesis wheel. This happened at the track. Imagine what would happen to a Rota at the track..."

So a KINESIS wheel fails at the track and this is somehow evidence of poor
Rota quality? I'm not sure I understand the logic.

-Ed
as explained earlier:

forged > cast > rota cast "This is a Kinesis wheel. This happened at the track. Imagine what would happen to a Rota at the track..."

So a KINESIS wheel fails at the track and this is somehow evidence of poor
Rota quality? I'm not sure I understand the logic.

-Ed
If you do not understand the logic there, I don't feel strange cause you were thinking your daily route to work is harsher on the wheels than going 100 mph into an apex on the track.....

Rotas are for KIA, Hyundai alike, anything better than these should run on something better. Rota's knockoff of a design has nothing to do with their build quality.

Are you guys searching the net for bad info on Rota's and coming up with guys who don't know how to take the stickers off them? Anyone who has seen them knows the paint is mediocre. It's an inexpensive wheel.

I have two sets of Spoons. I wouldn't even think of comparing them to the Rota's. But everyone asks me how I like my Rota's. I can tell the difference from 20 feet. No one else can.

I've seen lots of guys running Rotas at the track and have never seen a failure. That doesn't mean it won't happen, but your suggestion that knocking off a design means that it is a bad wheel is ridiculous. Rota's knockoff of a design has nothing to do with their build quality.

Are you guys searching the net for bad info on Rota's and coming up with guys who don't know how to take the stickers off them? Anyone who has seen them knows the paint is mediocre. It's an inexpensive wheel.

I have two sets of Spoons. I wouldn't even think of comparing them to the Rota's. But everyone asks me how I like my Rota's. I can tell the difference from 20 feet. No one else can.

I've seen lots of guys running Rotas at the track and have never seen a failure. That doesn't mean it won't happen, but your suggestion that knocking off a design means that it is a bad wheel is ridiculous.
Again, oftentimes, knocking off a high quality product design suggests lower quality -- we can see this in MANY other products in the world. I don't see how it is even close to ridiculous to suggest that a rota wheel could very likely be lower quality because of that, and other reasons. I did not state directly state that rotas are low quality because they knock off other rims. I am throwing an opinion out there to let YOU (the members of this forum) decide. stronger, weaker, who cares, as long as it strong enough ......... stronger, weaker, who cares, as long as it strong enough .........
Rota's knockoff of a design has nothing to do with their build quality.

Are you guys searching the net for bad info on Rota's and coming up with guys who don't know how to take the stickers off them? Anyone who has seen them knows the paint is mediocre. It's an inexpensive wheel.

I have two sets of Spoons. I wouldn't even think of comparing them to the Rota's. But everyone asks me how I like my Rota's. I can tell the difference from 20 feet. No one else can.

I've seen lots of guys running Rotas at the track and have never seen a failure. That doesn't mean it won't happen, but your suggestion that knocking off a design means that it is a bad wheel is ridiculous
You guys really think the Rotas are strong enough to use? I think you can say KIA or Hyundai makes good enough cars too. I don't see any ROTA on race cars and don't know which race team will use Rota at all. And never seen anyone on Rotas are fast on track anyway. You have not seen ROTAs failed on track does not mean it is good enough for track use. Haha, Chill out people.
But IMHO, We get what we pay for in this world. And we usually get less and never more. Right?

So, the Rotas might be OK for some conditions. But they are definitely on the lower end of the Cast wheels. Why would you want to save little money (only Few hundred dollars) to jeopardize the safety on a $50k car. It just doesn't make sense, at least to me an some others here. In the Track Day and Racing world, most would always want to have that extra margin of safety than to try to save a few hundred dollars. If people must save a few buck on wheels, as I mentioned earlier, the RP-F1s are stronger than the Rotas. Almost the same price range. And they come in 15x7 and 16x8 that will fit the Elise. I thought this thread started out concerning the ADVAN RGII wheel??

Sounds like some people just wanting to bash an affordable option that is intended as an AutoX wheel. It took a lot of work to convince Rota to make a wheel in our size, offset, and bore.

The big problem is all of the wheels mentioned are not the stock sizes. many of us want to run in the SS AutoX category wich require stock size and a similar offset (within 1/4" each wheel). SSR and Rota are the only options; SSR are just becoming available again and were not available last year.

My brother has run Rotas on his Miata for 4 years at track days, no problems. I will run the wheel for AutoX and a few track days and do just fine....And "Fast Orange", I do deserve my Elise! it is, of course, completely possible that you could run rotas and never bend or crack them. Whether you want to take the risk of putting cheap wheels on your lotus suspension is up to you.

"For the record, I bent 3 out of 4 Rota Slips on my EP3 in only 30,000 miles. So all you Rota-Hater Haters can hear from someone with experience with failed wheels. Rotas are cast (I know its already been covered here) and more expensive wheels like Volk are forged. Forged wheels are stronger than cast. There's no arguing that point. Rota's are not as strong as a forged wheel, it's as simple as that."

http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php...c=293399&st=75

A lot of people on this thread say that they have had no problems as well. I don't see any ROTA on race cars and don't know which race team will use Rota at all. And never seen anyone on Rotas are fast on track anyway. Gary Sheehan used them on his USTCC Subaru a couple of years ago. He was doing quite well with them:

http://www.teamsmr.com/html/season.html

Ironically, considering the thread title, he started using them after breaking a few Advans. AFAIK, he didn't bend or break a single Rota in a whole season.