Mga sir pasensya na po sa tanong na to???
Ano po ba ang function nitong strut bar??? Plano ko kasing painstall nito sa ride ko.... But of course, first I wanted to know what benefits will i derive from this gastusin.... :D

Strut bars makes n helps ur ride more stabilized on the road . makes the chassis more rigid and strong .

It lessens the flex of the body structure of the car. Kasi kapag sobrang hard cornering, the mounting points of the suspension (which is the monocoque structure) tends to flex. Flex can lead to poor tire contact during these situations resulting in ill handling.
That's why nilalagay ang strutbar to minimize flex.
Siyempre during extreme driving lang iyon. The rest of the time, it just makes your car look cooler. hehehe.

...the flexing of the body structure can also lead to cracked windshield windows. The last time I went to a Canyon Run with my fella Suby owners, I can hear my windshield flexing as we take the hard turns in Angeles Crest Highway. Front strut bar lang ang wala kaya nag flex, naglagay na din ako sa harap, di ko pa nasubukan ulit kung mag flex pa.
Also, I believe a stiffer swaybar will give you a better handling benefits than the strut bar. In addition, you can barely notice a difference kung strut tower bar lang ang ilalagay mo. Gaya ng sabi ni OTEP, eye candy lang. Depending on your car din kung which (front or rear muna) ang uunahin mong ilagay na stru tower bar. For instance, yung Subaru ko nilagay ko muna ng rear bago front. Why? yung strut top kse ng Suby ko malapit sa Firewall ng chassis so yung firewall is acting as an aid for chassis stiffness. Whereas sa rear, naked talaga na walang support ang strut top. For Honda? I think front strut bar muna dahil masyadong malayo sa firewall yung strut top.
Again, hindi natatapos ang suspension mod sa strut tower (unless na pang cool effect lang ang trip mo.) If you are just gonna throw on a front strut tower bar and nothing else(good tires won't even matter) you most likely will feel nothing. You'd be just a person showing off an"eye candy". If other aspects of susp. have already been addressed, then this will "TIE" things up nice.
Other aspects of Suspension Package that I have:
Whiteline Front Strut Bar
Whiteline Rear Strut Bar
Whiteline adjustable 22-24mm rear swaybar
Whiteline Heavy-duty rear swaybar bracket
Whiteline heavy-duty rear swaybar mount
MRT Alloy rear endlinks
TEIN Super Street full coil-over suspension

TEIN Super Street full coil-over suspension inggit ako ehehe :D

Sir Otep at Boss Karding which of these kaya ang uunahin ko... Yung front or rear strut bar???? BTW my ride is a 95 corolla
kasi every day I negotiate this downward sloping sharp curve on my way to the office and at this point I have to decelerate from 90+ to 40 or something kasi parang tumilapon ako pakanan.... nauunahan tuloy ako ng mga opis mates ko..... ok pa naman ang under chassis na ride ko... pati suspension....
will a front and rear strut bar solve the problem????
One more thing saan ba inilagay itong rear strut bar???
Again thanks mga sir

Baka malakas ang understeer mo. Normal naman yun sa mga front wheel drive. Si Karding siguro ang may solusyon diyan kasi hindi ako suspension tuner. Hehehe.
Yung front strut bar ikinakabit sa ibabaw ng shock towers sa loob ng engine compartment. Kung makakahanap ka ng OEM strutbar mas maganda kasi 3-point ang connection nito for more rigidity. Yung rear strut bar sa ibabaw din ng rear shock towers. They will have to cut a slit in your carpeting. Hindi ko lang alam kung merong STB para sa likod ng Corolla.

do you guys reco to put a rear strut bar na rin?

kung hindi kumakarera, hindi ko recommend maglagay ng rear..sa harap nalang para maporma :) my opinion po

Sir Otep at Boss Karding which of these kaya ang uunahin ko... Yung front or rear strut bar???? BTW my ride is a 95 corolla
kasi every day I negotiate this downward sloping sharp curve on my way to the office and at this point I have to decelerate from 90+ to 40 or something kasi parang tumilapon ako pakanan.... nauunahan tuloy ako ng mga opis mates ko..... ok pa naman ang under chassis na ride ko... pati suspension....
will a front and rear strut bar solve the problem????
One more thing saan ba inilagay itong rear strut bar???
Again thanks mga sir Swaybar ang kailangan mo kapatid. Stiffer rear swaybar will reduce understeer. looks like stiffer na ang front mo kaya ka nag understeer. Nakukuha din sa alignment ang pag reduce ng understeer. Dial-in more negative upfront than the rear (I have -1.5 Front and -0.75 rear.) You can also increase the front tire psi in 2.5 increments and reduce the rear. Maraming ways to reduce and increase understeer/oversteer. Eto ang guidelines, some of this may be applicable to your car. Like kung wala kang adjustable damping force ng shocks mo, eliminate mo na yung step na yon. Kasi ang front ko is Softer than the rear.
TO REDUCE UNDERSTEER or INCREASE OVERSTEER:
Front tires:
- Increase tire pressure in 2.5psi increments
- Increase Section Width
- Lower the Aspect Ratio
- Reduce front tread depth
Rear Tires:
- Reduce tire pressure in 2.5psi increments
- Reduce section width
- Install higher aspect ratio tires
- Increase rear tread depth
Front Wheels:
- Install wider wheels
- Install lighter wheels
Rear Wheels:
- Install narrower wheels
- Install heavier wheels
Front Alignment settings:
- Dial in more negative camber
- Dial in More toe-out
- Dial in more positive caster
Rear Alignment settings:
- Dial in more positive camber
- Dial in more toe-out (Same as front)
Anti-Sway bars:
- Soften the Front
- Stiffen the Rear
Spring rates:
- Soften the Front
- Stiffen the Rear
Shock absorbers:
- Soften the Front
- Stiffen the Rear
Suspension Bushings:
- Soften the Front
- Stiffen the Rear
Brake Proportioning
- Reduce Front brake pressure
- Increase rear pressure
Weight Distribution
- Reduce front weight
- Increase rear weight
Aerodynamics:
- Increase Front Downforce
- Reduce rear downforce
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TO REDUCE OVERSTEER or INCREASE UNDERSTEER:
Front tires:
- Decrease tire pressure in 2.5psi increments
- Decrease Section Width
- Install higher Aspect Ratio tires
- Increase front tread depth
Rear Tires:
- Increase tire pressure in 2.5psi increments
- Increase section width
- Reduce aspect ratio
- Decrease rear tread depth
Front Wheels:
- Install narrower wheels
- Install heavier wheels
Rear Wheels:
- Install wider wheels
- Install lighter wheels
Front Alignment settings:
- Dial in less negative camber
- Dial in less toe-out (to toe-in if needed)
- Dial in less positive caster
Rear Alignment settings:
- Dial in less positive camber
- Dial in less toe-out (Same as front)
Anti-Sway bars:
- Stiffen the Front
- Soften the Rear
Spring rates:
- Stiffen the Front
- Soften the Rear
Shock absorbers:
- Stiffen the Front
- Soften the Rear
Suspension Bushings:
- Stiffen the Front
- Soften the Rear
Brake Proportioning
- Increase Front brake pressure
- Reduce rear brake pressure
Weight Distribution
- Increase front weight
- Decrease rear weight
Aerodynamics:
- Reduce Front Downforce
- Increase rear downforce

More and more aftermarket manufacturers are making a 3-point strut tower bars. Rear strut bar merong lower and upper, same thing as front strut bar. On my previous Integra, rear lower and front upper lang meron ako. Wala pa akong pakialam sa suspension and handling noon, hehehe.
Front Strut Bar Pictures:
http://www.pbase.com/roowagon/whiteline_fstb
Other Suspension Components: anjan din yung pic ng Rear Strut Bar ko
http://www.pbase.com/wrxplosive/suspension_stuff
baiskee, if you have a spare change, then put on the rear strut bar. Afterall, its part of the whole suspension package(mentioned earlier in my post.) And as I've said earlier too, depende sa car mo kung rear or front muna ang uunahin. strongly suggest getting a stiffer swaybar (adjustable preferred!) before getting the strut bars.
In additition to my alignment settings:
this is a medium setting for my car:
0 toe front and rear
-1.00 camber front
-0.75 camber rear
Why more negative on front??
Which ever end of the vehicle you want to have stick better to the road should get more negative camber within reason.
Hence, if you want less understeer, less negative camber in the rear and more in the front; if the car oversteers more than you like, you put more negative camber on the rear and less on the fronts.
why less negative camber on my rear???
I already have a stiffer settings on my rear due to my adj. 22-24mm swaybar, endlinks, etc. to compensate or balance the front and rear settings.
My friend's Subaru on the other hand is completely stock in suspension aside from lowering springs and a sticky 225/45/17 rubber. I advised him to have more negative on the rear. his settings are:
-1.00 front
-1.50 rear
0 toe front n rear.
There's too much info about suspension and a few people bothers to tune their suspension. I've seen a 1995 VW Golf take a turn at highspeed and you'll be amazed how in the world was he able to make that turn as if there were no turns at all. I used to think all we need is to go fast. But will your car handle the way you want it in-case of emergency manuevering or turns because you have a powerful engine and you were going so fast? I dont race professionally, I do canyon runs, and I love making turns, at high speeds.

Salamat po sa mga advices niyo mga tol'.... You really dump a ton of helpful information in here.....
Now I have a clear idea of what to do next.....
Maraming salamat po sir.... More power to forum mods and contributors...

mga tol, may kilala ba kayong nagfafabricate ng struts? yung tipong ikaw magbibigay ng gusto mong porma tapos gagawin nila?

mga tol, may kilala ba kayong nagfafabricate ng struts? yung tipong ikaw magbibigay ng gusto mong porma tapos gagawin nila? ...hmmm, try mo sa mga gumagawa ng gate, o sa mga nagbebenta (shop) ng mga bakal (yung magandang shop na pang bakal ha,.. hindi junks :happy:) I've heard na merong nagpafabricate nun sa EG civic (noh, serious!) pure bakal ha, custom-made, tamang sukat, no adjustments, (like the stock TRD Sports ng big body Corolla) yung ibang strut bar kasi na-aadjust (i.e. bolts, may roskas etc)
Try mo bro, baka sakali,. make sure tama ang sukat nila ha! hehe!

Just another question from noob.. Im just a daily driver never tried racing but I sometimes push my car to its near limits on long clear roads I negotiate also winding canyon roads.. but still cant understand whats understeer or oversteer?:twak2:

Oversteer, for the given steering input, sobra yung response. E.g. nagturn ka ng konti pero biglang kabig yung sasakyan.
Understeer, sobrang liko mo na ng manibela, ang hina pa din ng response.

Thanks sir Otep. based on your explanation may understeer pala ung vios ko kaysa frontier.... a swaybar or struts can make a difference? a four point strut is better than 2 points lang?

Understeer is common to front drivers. Understeer is easier for newbie drivers to handle.
As for the bars making a difference, antayin na lang natin ang sagot. hehehe.
All things being equal, 4pt should be better than 2pt. Of course there are other factors like the quality of the bar, metal used, quality of mounting, etc.

Hmmmm... not sure about the Vios, but it sure helps on the Lynx. It helped on the Sentra, too... gave a little extra stiffness to the front end... slim, but still noticeable.
A better solution would be tires. A front strutbar isn't the magic cure for understeer, but it does help handling. In the case of the Vios, though, the understeer is naturally built in because of the torsion beam rear suspension, which limits camber adjustability... even in the TRD turbocharged Vios, with its stiffer suspension, testers report lots of understeer.
One good cover-up for understeer? Tires. Put great tires on any front driver and it will help reduce understeer.