I will be painting my wheels black this winter but just wondering which looks better, black center with silve lip or all black.

I am leaning to all black but just wanted to get some opinions.


All black.
yea all black i think too.
wow and really nice with the front mounted rear view mirrors. it looks awesome.
all; black...
It really looks badass both ways, but I think I like the silver lip just a little more cause it defines the car just a hair better IMO. Kinda helps accent the black and white theme. Beautiful car! And props on paying homage to the old school SA's with the fender mounted mirrors!! A+
all black
All black. It goes better with the lines. Where your car has black, it's uninterrupted, for example the hood and wing. All black wheels would help the rims blend in the with wheel wells much better, creating an uninterrupted black area.
I wouldve said black/silver lip.....however fc3s kit has a point
either way looks good to me though
All black it shall be, that is what I was leaning towards anyway.
Dude, your FD is extremely beautiful. Congratulations.
By the way, which bodykit is it ?
All black for sure. Like the mirrors BTW!
ALL black. And tint your windows 10%
That = sex
All black. Polished lips on black is played out.
Just keep it silver IMO
Just keep it silver IMO +1
If you really want black, get the ones Rishie is ordering. THose have the red enkei symbols on them. Otherwise, just leave your silver wheels alone. They are awesomeness.
All black tire/wheels is a current ricer fad and makes your tire/wheel combo just look like a big blob of black. If you go that route, then paint the whole car black.
The polished rim adds contrast. You are using the black spoiler and hood for contrast, so continue the theme for complete harmony!
Just because the masses might like or believe in something, does not make it correct.
If the car was a different color, or it was a different wheel, I would agree with you. But with the car being white, I personally dont think a polished lip looks good. Plus, with the 1 piece RPF1s, there is not a defined rim lip, as there would be with a multi-piece wheel, so I would think the polished lip wouldnt look right. Just IMO, of course. :)
All black tire/wheels is a current ricer fad and makes your tire/wheel combo just look like a big blob of black. If you go that route, then paint the whole car black.
The polished rim adds contrast. You are using the black spoiler and hood for contrast, so continue the theme for complete harmony!
Just because the masses might like or believe in something, does not make it correct.
all black for sure.
especially for a 1-pc wheel.
it looks amazing man, your car F&#&ing rocks! nice background in the pic too, so cool.
all black for sure. I still like the re-amemiya aw-7 better on your car but these suit your car good too. +1 on the tint too
all black looks amazing. great car.

Lets Hear Who Is Going To Be Drag Racing Next Season Local Or National Events? Any New Projects In The Works For 08? Post Your News And Pics:icon_tup:
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THE RX8 NAME IS Miñaña, A 3/4 chassis WITH A 20B TURBO/ ALCOHOL, USING A LIBERTY.
NICE PROJECT:shocking:
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http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s.../untitled4.jpg Hey noel, your car shot straight for the wall on that pass, Did you retire the car after that crash?
Hey noel, your car shot straight for the wall on that pass, Did you retire the car after that crash? NO I DID NOT RETIRE THE CAR, BELIVE IT OR NOT THE CAR DIDNT EVEN HAVE A SCRATCH JUST THE TWO RIMS IN THAT SIDE GOT MESS UP AND THE TIRES, ACTUALLY JUST FINISH EVERYTHING AND WE ARE GOING TO ORLANDO NEXT WEEK END FOR THE EVENT.:icon_tup:
THE RX8 NAME IS Miñaña, A 3/4 chassis WITH A 20B TURBO/ ALCOHOL, USING A LIBERTY.
NICE PROJECT:shocking: YEAH THATS A NICE CAR, IS HE GOING TO BE READY FOR NEXT YEAR.
THE RX8 NAME IS Miñaña, A 3/4 chassis WITH A 20B TURBO/ ALCOHOL, USING A LIBERTY.
NICE PROJECT:shocking: Who owns that car ? Carlos built it right ?
Who owns that car ? Carlos built it right ? CARLOS SOLD IT TO A PERSON IN SOUTH MIAMI, YES CARLOS BUIL IT.
the owner is Marcos Rivera ( Khen Pipo) and i hope it came a.s.a.p., cant want to see it run the 7/6 sec
I would like to see what it can do as well.....
It's a shame Carlos never got to complete it...
L8R
:crying: for real, that a shame, he has build great cars
Carlos was always great to hang out with. Pretty cool kat.
The paint job on the car is awsome you cant see it in these picts but its a dragan, carlos sent me some picts before he sold it. I miss carlos at the track!
I CANT FIND A BETTER PIC OF THE HOOD
I am Racing PSCA Next year,Seems to far to go out from Los Angeles.They have
some pretty sick v8s to race with.
I am Racing PSCA Next year,Seems to far to go out from Los Angeles.They have
some pretty sick v8s to race with. renee what class do you plan on racing in? with what car? i go to alot of the psca events, to watch my friends race.. the cars are FAST!, Abel came out to a few and did well..

Owner= Ricardo "El Father" Bonilla
Car= Mazda Rx8 2006 – 7/8 chassis
Motor= 13B semi peripheral Turbo+ Alcohol
Transmission= Liberty
Clutch= Ajustable (RAM)
ECU= Sakura Motorsport
psca racing is pretty sweet
titan motorsports is planning to run against the pro mods next year
i saw abel out there in vegas, wasnt a good weekend blew 3 motors
2 in the pits and 1 in the burn out
abel is real good but he needs to get his stuff straight
its probally hard now since no sponsers
remeber titan sells alot of parts to go racing but abel just has a shop and a couple of small sponsers
it would be nice to see a 3 rotor qualify #3 or 4 with the v8s
NO I DID NOT RETIRE THE CAR, BELIVE IT OR NOT THE CAR DIDNT EVEN HAVE A SCRATCH JUST THE TWO RIMS IN THAT SIDE GOT MESS UP AND THE TIRES, ACTUALLY JUST FINISH EVERYTHING AND WE ARE GOING TO ORLANDO NEXT WEEK END FOR THE EVENT.:icon_tup: pick up the phone... I don't think you should take the car with others peoples parts...:shocking: :shocking:
abel needs to spread the money and get a team
That looks bad ass!
that same team(Clubman Racing)its building a 7/8 chassis rx8 with a 26B motor,chassis its being build by GABY CHASSIS DOWN IN Puerto Rico
Those puerto ricans have to much money to throw away.Some of us west coast racers have no tracks to race on and taxed by everything,gas,property,freaking even the freaking smog tests.
My freind was overthere this past Week in PR and he says there is noting but race cars being built on their back
yards and nothing but wrenching on their cars 24-7 and racing 3 times a week.We over here race about 3
times a year.No wonder abel is suffering right now,no track time means no testntune.
WHAT AN EASY PR LIFE.
Rotorholic got out of LA just in time.He also has an easy life.
Hmm seems somebodys upset no NHRA or Nopi races on the west coast next year...lol
Theres a good thread on Honda-Tech why west sucks for imports
they don't travel like the east coasters do for one...
Those puerto ricans have to much money to throw away.Some of us west coast racers have no tracks to race on and taxed by everything,gas,property,freaking even the freaking smog tests.
My freind was overthere this past Week in PR and he says there is noting but race cars being built on their back
yards and nothing but wrenching on their cars 24-7 and racing 3 times a week.We over here race about 3
times a year.No wonder abel is suffering right now,no track time means no testntune.
WHAT AN EASY PR LIFE.
Rotorholic got out of LA just in time.He also has an easy life.

who knows anything about it? can it damage anything? does it make much of a difference?
are u talking about injecting straight into the turbo manifold?
You could use it in the Greddy elbow to "spool up" the turbo. Or are you talking about forcing the compressor wheel with it??? If you want the safest "spool up" port the motor...
Wow am i that out of it??
I always thought guys sprayed the motor to spool......
not spary the turbo manifold or compressor????
nitrous works best if you leave the pills out
nitrous works best if you leave the pills out
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There really isn't that much info out there about nitrous on rotaries, especially turbo rotaries. The guys that do run it are fairly tight lipped about it, probably because of the competition aspect.
Steve Kan would probably be a good person to ask. I think he used to run it on his car as a spool up assist, and i'm sure he has tuned a few nitrous rotaries.
Steve is almost never around the shop so it's hard to get a hold of him, he has a job other than Gotham. But what im think about is doing a half-bridge port and a large single turbo (havent decided size yet but im going for 600rwhp) and just using the nitrious to spool the turbo faster just as an extra little advantage. I'm thinking of building a supra killer (FD that weighs around 2300ish and makes 600rwhp) should be able to take 800-900rwhp supras
i know their isnt much info on nitrious on rotaries but it seems like a good idea if itll work right
remember this is just an idea
Your choice, wet or dry (dry has better disstribution). Launch the car and feed in the nitrous, use a pressure switch, when you reach your desired boost target nitrous shuts off. I don't get what exactly is your question? Using nitrous IN YOUR ENGINE builds power, which builds exhaust volume, which spools your turbo faster. Thats what "nitrous spool up assist" normally means. The car leaves the line on NO2 till it can generate enough exhaust volume to spool up a large and what normally would be a laggy turbo. Now if someones gotten creative and is pumping it in there exhaust manifold, all I see happening is BOOM and or MELT DOWN due to the enormous EGT's. Using it to blow in your compressor wheel isn't going to effectively spin it up any faster from blowing into/across/on it either. Only from it getting into your engine with added fuel will spool it up quicker. I'd be really interested to see if there is any unusual and effective ways other then just plain old letting your engine injest it.
~Mike.............
silly question...
but if you sprayed a wet shot into the turbo manifold would it drastically raise EGT's like you said with the NO2 offsetting it?? even with the extra fuel it seems it would stay stable.
no idea how effective that would be at spooling, my guess would be very effective as it would work just like anti-lag but maybe keep EGT's in check with the NO2??? vs. the super high anti-lag EGT's
Im doing the same exact thing. I bought the Zex kit and highly recommend it. It has built in safety options of making sure your fuel pressure and bottle temp are correct for every use. If they're not correct, everything is reduced to compensate for your lack of pressure or temp. Also they have an option so your N20 cuts off at a certain boost, ie...to help you spool then turn off. Hope this helps.
The Zex kit you want is the P/N 82218. Its a wet system that incorporates an adjustable boost dependent elecronic switch. The system includes a Nitrous mgmt. unit, wet nozzle, a boost dependent switch and all plumbing/electrical connections needed. You can set the switch between 2 and 24psi.
silly question...
but if you sprayed a wet shot into the turbo manifold would it drastically raise EGT's like you said with the NO2 offsetting it?? even with the extra fuel it seems it would stay stable.
no idea how effective that would be at spooling, my guess would be very effective as it would work just like anti-lag but maybe keep EGT's in check with the NO2??? vs. the super high anti-lag EGT's
EGT's would stil be massive in that scenario..........you're still causing a combustion event in the manifold whether its caused by nitrous and fuel, or fuel and chamber pressure - its still FIRE!! :lol:
I honestly don't know. I havent tried it. But I'm still thinking your EGT's would be WAY up their as you've moved combustion from your internal engine were its allowed to expand (down stroke of a piston or expanding of the rotor chamber) and have some heat taken out through oil and water exchangers and thus cool (reletively speaking). In the manifold, its simply a explosion/constant torch/fire contained in the runners and held back from blowing out the exhaust by the turbo. You'd have to have some really trick nozzles too, as the standard nitrous nozzles are typically aluminum. Aluminum would'nt last in a turbo manifold envirnment. On a high over-lap engine, man this just sounds scarey. Hopefully someone with experiance with weird / experimental experiance will chime in. But like I said before, when nitrous is used to help a turbo car spool up, its simply run through the engine just like it was a n/a engine to generate power/exhaust volume to get the turbo spooling up then the nitrous is shut off after that.
~Mike............
What about using a 2-step instead of nitrous? If all you are worried about is spool up off the line that should take care of that right?
I know...... i should reword it
With antilag you are supporting combustion in the manifold because you are retarding timming and dumping alot more fuel = Super high EGTS
vs
With a wet shot right into the manifold the fuel would act just like antilag and skyrocket the EGTs, but wouldn't the NO2 cool this to a reasonable level?
What about using a 2-step instead of nitrous? If all you are worried about is spool up off the line that should take care of that right? I have heard that the 2step can be hard on the corner seals....??? maybe bogus
I have used antilag on my car alot with the E8 and I could build as much boost as i wanted very rapidly, and it isnt violent like the 2 step...........but my turbine got it up the ass, since i never had an egt gauge
To me when you engage antilag (the way i had it setup) the car acts like it just got loaded on the dyno and the turbo instantly starts singing even though revs didnt increase
With a wet shot right into the manifold the fuel would act just like antilag and skyrocket the EGTs, but wouldn't the NO2 cool this to a reasonable level? As a speculation (i've never tried it so who knows) I would still say the EGT's would be BIG. The nitrous wouldn't be providing any cooling effect, it would actually be making it hotter. More oxygen = hotter temps (ie. a lean condition.....or think oxy/aceteylne torch) and thats all Nitrous is essentially (with regards to its purpose in combustion)...............oxygen.
Yes that is a very good point....
I must be thinking diesel too much because in that case NO2 cools EGTs...... and it is still supporting combustion....
but maybe in a diesel application it is just supporting a cleaner more efficient burn because no more fuel is being induced???
I'd rather buy a new turbo than go through the hassle of rebuilding a motor.
That's if all you're worried about is launching the car.
What turbo are you running and why do you "think" you need help spooling it?
Steve is almost never around the shop so it's hard to get a hold of him, he has a job other than Gotham. But what im think about is doing a half-bridge port and a large single turbo (havent decided size yet but im going for 600rwhp) and just using the nitrious to spool the turbo faster just as an extra little advantage. I'm thinking of building a supra killer (FD that weighs around 2300ish and makes 600rwhp) should be able to take 800-900rwhp supras I didn't read you whole post. You won't need a damn thing to help you spool if your only going for 600whp. A Greddy T78 can make 600whp which is now days terms is a tiny turbo. I thought your were going in the direction of a GT45R.
Wow am i that out of it??
I always thought guys sprayed the motor to spool......
not spary the turbo manifold or compressor???? If aimed correctly spraying at the compressor is INSTANT boost. Gotta becareful however because you wouldn't believe how fast you'll hit 2 bar+...
I learn things every day ^^^
well the idea was to reduce lag and to make full boost early like at 4000rpm if possible but would it be better to run a GT45R at low boost or a T78 at higher boost?
and im NOT going to run nitrious through the engine
maybe the turbine housing were theirs no combustion just make the turbine spin faster thus increasing spool

On my 13B-REW when tuning your vacuum range what a/f should i be shooting for?
I just switched over to 850 primaries and I need to retune my entire map.
The car was running really poorly so I data logged with lambda and I was running in the .77-.82 range. (11.3 - 12.0 a/f) remember this was with no boost in the 2-3K RPM range. I pulled my plugs and they were sooty and black. So I now know 11.3 a/f is way too rich for vacuum low RPM.
Where should I be aiming for? I redid the maps and have it in the .95 to 1.05 (13.9-15.4 a/f) range now and got nervous that may be too lean.
I remembered I had trimmed my fuel back 10% so I fed it back 3% more. This should put me in the 13.3-13.5 range. The car seems much more happy here though.
Thanks for any input in advance.
Medium to high vacume i run mid-high 15.x:1 afrs, on reallly cold days ive dipped into 16's and the car still runs fine, sometimes it will buck a little and start to miss, but its rare.
i run bout stoch around low-vac quickly going to 14flat at the first sign of positive manifold pressure dropping to mid 13's and attempt to taper richer and richer as boost comes on (but i suck and my dataloggings finiky) so it doesnt work so well.
This is where staring at the wide-band is a waste of time...
Just lean the bitch out until you can tolerate the lean surge...
At higher RPM's, watch the EGT - this is where the wide-band is basically useless.
-Ted
lean surge?
I am not sure I get what you mean.
I ordered a EGT Gauge so for now I will not tune too much until I get it and install it. I will concentrate on getting some break in miles on it.
What temps are optimum for what situations?
i.e. cruising while in vacuum?
Running hard under boost?
Time so do some reading under EGT?
Thanks for the tips guys.
He means when the car starts to buck and hesitate at whatever load point (under vacuum but not approaching boost threshold). Lean it out until it starts doing that, and then back off a little bit.

I'm interested in this kit http://www.rx7store.net/product_p/gt40r%20kit.htm
Just wondering is anyone else is using it? I will be using this on a large street ported 13b-re swapped fc. Is fitment tight with the fc engine bay? Is it a quality turbo manifold? I have heard good things about the gt35r kit they sell. Seams worth it considering the turbo its self is $1800
I am running this kit and I love it. Made awesome power on my full bridge-ported motor. See sig.
Dee E.
I'm interested in this kit http://www.rx7store.net/product_p/gt40r%20kit.htm
Just wondering is anyone else is using it? I will be using this on a large street ported 13b-re swapped fc. Is fitment tight with the fc engine bay? Is it a quality turbo manifold? I have heard good things about the gt35r kit they sell. Seams worth it considering the turbo its self is $1800 If Dee was trying to answer your specific question about quality, What I took from his post above was that he is happy with the quality of the manifold. If you've heard good things about their other kits, I'd have some confidence in their overall quality. Back to Dee's comment, since he has an FD, and didn't otherwise comment specifically on fitment with the FC engine bay, you cannot assume anything there. I would call Jason at the RX7 Store and ask him if it'll fit in an FC engine bay. He would know, and he would not bullshit you about this. Do it right the first time and massively upgrade all your intercooling and fuel and ignition and exhaust components to take full advantage of this turbo's power making potential. If you don't plan to make 450+ whp, I'd just stick with the gt35r kit.